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Monday Morning Weigh in: 238.4

Posted in Diet and Bodyweight by Mike on October 8, 2007

My lowest weight was Saturday morning (pre breakfast) at 236.0. My diet is looking good for the week. I got two containers of spinach so I don’t run out like usual. I bought extra chicken breasts for the same reason. I have replaced the two eggs I was experimenting with last week with Miso Soup. I think it will be good. Here is a rough cut of how I eat:

1/4 cup steel cut oats
1/4 cup flax seed
coffee with milk and sugar
8oz Miso soup
plain coffee
Spinach Salad with 1/3 – 1/2 chicken breast
plain coffee
Spinach Salad with 1/3 – 1/2 chicken breast
plain coffee
1 yoplait yogurt
coffee with milk and sugar
supper – whatever it is for that day, I normally for supper

It’s the same basic model I have been tinkering with for months.

12 Responses to 'Monday Morning Weigh in: 238.4'

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  1. Scott Styles said,

    Looks pretty good.

    I did the steel cut oats for awhile but never learned to enjoy eating them. I would make a batch on the stove on Sunday and heat portions in the microwave every morning. Even with honey and cinnamon I still got tired of eating the oats. How are you cooking them?

  2. speedstudio said,

    Mike: Are you sure you’re eating enough? (I say that because think I might be eating more than you.)

    I would recommend more protein and replace the grains and dairy with nuts, seeds, fruits and vegs. But, the biggest thing I would change is your intake of caffeine – WOW! You’re young, and might not perceive it yet – but it’s affecting your sleep, which affects growth hormone production and recovery.

  3. Mike said,

    I boil the water in a kettle. I put a quarter cup of the oats and the flax in a bowl, apply water. Then I pour in just a bit of maple syrup, tablespoon or two. I mix it up a bit then add some milk to cool it down. I mit it again and do my best to drink it scrapping whatever didn’t go down drinking, in with a spoon and off I go. I call it the postmaster general cause I started it after Chris Rice and I went to Seneca a year ago and he told me he drank oatmeal everyday that he worked when I whined about how I couldn’t down plain oatmeal .

    For your first question, I don’t know. I’ve worked with roughly this diet since May playing around with different amount and orders of food. This form I’m on right now is the lowest in calorie I take it I have used it before but I can only do it for a month at most before my will breaks. Then it’s all I can do to not binge.
    At one time, about July, I had some success with adding calories to lose weight. In August I cut back again but had a couple weeks were I really didn’t stay on very well. In September I experimented with some higher calorie, higher protein models that included having beans and veggies or eggs at 0700. I also experimented with some carb rich meals at 1400ish. I seemed to hold steady or gain on that. I found that incredibly frustrating considering my success a few months back. So now I am pushing the calories down again. That’s how I got here.
    I don’t eat much in the way of grains. Those oats and flax in the am are supposed to be pretty good for me. I find when I jsut have protein that it is an incredibly slow start to the day. I did like my eggs at 7 but gave them up in an effort to point this roller coaster down hill. I picked miso as a new variation because I found the dried packets in the story and even though it’s basically soybean soup it give me a very fulfilling feeling. I figure I hit my veggies with my spinach, although I’d like to get some more variety in my salads, past attempts have been mixed at best. Nuts are good, I keep some almonds at work but I find them hard to portion control. They are small and very unsatisfying. Mixed in with something else they might be more helpful, like slivered almonds on a salad.
    Last, caffiene. What can I say, you are right. I thought of excuses, I thought of the history, but, when you’re right, you’re right. In that vien I skipped my post work coffee today. I’m not going cold turkey by any means but I decided to cut it back to three a day for starters. Maybe two after that. I don’t think I’ll totally cut it out but, less is more.

    Now, I must confess that those long cycles got me starving this evening. So I am warming up a couple pot stickers at 2100 just to get through the night. So it looks like my calories came up short today. I may have to bring some protein in tomorrow. I have some left over, loose, lean, ground beef from the weekend.

  4. Chris Rice said,

    I didn’t think you were paying attention – hehe.

  5. Mike said,

    Yeah, I get that a lot 🙂
    Actually I came home and told my wife about it. She said “It must be an Ohio thing.” Her dad is from Archibold and he used to eat a very similar breakfast. Anyway, Five days a week for a year now. I actually find myself looking forward to it after the weekend of making other breakfasts….In fact, my water is about to boil now.

  6. Scott Styles said,

    Are these what you are talking about with steel cut oats?

    When I have cooked them in the past, it required simmering for 15-20 minutes to get them soft. It was a pain in the butt, which was one of the reasons I stopped eating them. Are you just eating them hard without chewing?

    It could be an interesting experiment for you to take a picture of everything you eat for a week. My diet isn’t nearly so strict. Yesterday I had coco puffs with breakfast and dinner, for instance.

  7. speedstudio said,

    Mike: Poliquin has something to say about oats and fat storage in a recent “T-Nation” article. Scroll down to “Carbs, Hot Asians, and Oatmeal.”;jsessionid=DD0BA74E5F32D98B2E9F3C2B824D4734.hydra?id=1754646

  8. Mike said,

    Yep, same stuff. I use Red Mill. I normally use the same brand of flax seed although I’m experimenting with something called forta-flax this week. Seems pretty good too. With a couple minutes in steaming hot water they are a tad chewy but not hard. I don’t chewy the first half of them, just suck ’em down. The second half get chewed. Not too bad.
    I’m not saying I have committed to your experiment but I did figure out how to email directly from my cameraphone to flickr. So it would be easy. It might make for an interesting reality check, but it seems kinda…anal, I guess. Coco puffs? I have been known to have a small juice glass of puffins once a week or so, usually on Sunday, as a snack but that’s about all the processed cereal I eat.

    I read that little bit, very interesting. I’m trying to decide if I want to start making changes or if I want to do Scott’s experiment with no changes first. I disagree with him on one point. He pointed out that oats were grasses and that made them bad. All grains, whole, processed, flax, oat and wheat are all grasses. I don’t believe for a second that ll grains are inherently bad.
    This is probably my biggest pet peeve about diet info. You can have a supposedly perfect diet, then a different nutritionist comes by and destroys it. I’m not saying mine is perfect but it’s far better than what I was raised on, yet it seems like every time I turn around, half of it is wrong.
    I’ll get back to you on the oats thing.

  9. speedstudio said,

    Mike: I used to eat oatmeal or rice every morning and thoroughly enjoyed it. What I’ve learned is that an hour after I eat rice or oats, I get a ravenous appetite and have to eat again. I don’t experience that when I eat fruit, berries, nuts and seeds.

  10. Mike said,

    I have found that I need to eat a meal 2 hours after breakfast.
    What are you eating, specifically, for breakfast these days?

  11. speedstudio said,

    Mike: I’ve been alternating between three breakfast meals 1) fruit (berries, banana, pineapple), almond milk, almonds and flax seed 2) 3 whole eggs, spinach, bacon (or steak); and 3) shakes with chocolate Muscle Milk protein + scoop of another zero carb micellar protein powder. Sunday I had steak & eggs, Monday I had fruit, today I had protein shake. I’m also a coffee drinker. I drink as much as I want (usually three or four cups) all before 9:00AM.

    A couple years ago I quit coffee for about 6 months. I experienced more soreness, irregularity and my metabolism seemed slower.

  12. Mike said,

    Thanks for the info. I may kill some eggs tomorrow morning then follow them with some almonds. I did consider the idea of a fruit smoothie, although I’ve always been a little uncomfortable with the calorie content of those.

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